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Aaron Lewis (Blue Collar) 7/28/2008 6:46 AM EST : What's missing for your game [FFXI]?
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Aaron Lewis
Posts: 1979
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Hi there!

We've gotten behind on several expansions, additions, and the like for some of the games we host guilds for.  Specifically, we're wondering what we're missing along these lines:

  • Areas of the game.  The zones listed when you are adding or viewing an event, etc.  What's not there that should be?
  • Classes/races.  What's been added that's missing?  What's named incorrectly?
  • Roster stuff.  What should be displayed that isn't?  What's displayed that doesn't really matter to anybody and should be removed to make room for more important data?
  • Content types.  Are there any types of content that you consistently feel the need for, that is specific to your game, that you would like to see added?

There is one topic like this for each of the games we host, at least the top several, and they are stickied in the Feature Requests forum.  Please, if you would, post only in the one that's specific to your game.  We're trying to clean house before we add some things people have been asking for for a long time now, so your help is very appreciated!

As always, thank you for choosing GuildPortal!

Aaron Lewis, GuildPortal.com
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Soucont (New Admin) 7/28/2008 12:50 PM EST : RE: What's missing for your game [FFXI]?

Soucont
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Yay, Thanks Aaron! Info below:

Areas of the game.  The zones listed when you are adding or viewing an event, etc.  What's not there that should be?

- Changes:

"Tuvnazian Safehold" should read "Tavnazian Safehold"

"Zulkheim: Ship - Selbina Mhuara" should read "Ship: Selbina/Mhaura" to keep the same format as other ship zones. Events can take place on these ships so it's good that they are in there.

- Additions (new and missing locations):

Aht Urhgan Whitegate
Airship: Jeuno/Kazham
Airship: Jeuno/San d'Oria
Airship: Jeuno/Windurst
Airship: Jeuno/Bastok
Al Zahbi
Al'Taieu: Empyreal Paradox
Apollyon: Central
Apollyon: CS
Apollyon: North East
Apollyon: North West
Apollyon: South East
Apollyon: South West
Arrapago Islands: Arrapago Reef
Arrapago Islands: Caedarva Mire
Arrapago Islands: Hazhalm Testing Grounds
Arrapago Islands: Ilrusi Atoll
Arrapago Islands: Leujaoam Sanctum
Arrapago Islands: Periqia
Arrapago Islands: Talacca Cove
Chocobo Circuit
Dynamis: Buburimu
Dynamis: Qufim
Dynamis: Tavnazia
Dynamis: Valkurm
Everbloom Hollow
Ghoyus Reverie
Halvung Territory: Halvung
Halvung Territory: Lebros Cavern
Halvung Territory: Mount Zhayolm
Halvung Territory: Navukgo Execution Chamber
Mamool Ja Savagelands: Aydeewa Subterrane
Mamool Ja Savagelands: Jade Sepulcher
Mamool Ja Savagelands: Mamook
Mamool Ja Savagelands: Mamool Ja Training Grounds
Mamool Ja Savagelands: Wajaom Woodlands
Nashmau
Ruins of Alzadaal: Alzadaal Undersea Ruins
Ruins of Alzadaal: Bhaflau Remnants
Ruins of Alzadaal: Nyzul Isle
Ruins of Alzadaal: Silver Sea Remnants
Ruins of Alzadaal: Zhayolm Remnants
Ruins of Alzadaal: Arrapago Remnants
Ruthotz Silvermines
Ship: Mhaura/Al Zahbi
Ship: Nashmau/Al Zahbi
Temenos: Central Tower - 1st Floor
Temenos: Central Tower - 2nd Floor
Temenos: Central Tower - 3rd Floor
Temenos: Central Tower - 4th Floor
Temenos: Central Tower - Basement
Temenos: Eastern Tower
Temenos: Northern Tower
Temenos: Western Tower
The Aragoneu Front: Castle Oztroja [S]
The Aragoneu Front: Garlaige Citadel [S]
The Aragoneu Front: Meriphataud Mountains [S]
The Aragoneu Front: Sauromugue Champaign [S]
The Derfland Front: Beadeaux [S]
The Derfland Front: Crawlers Nest [S]
The Derfland Front: Pashhow Marshlands [S]
The Derfland Front: Rolanberry Fields [S]
The Fauregandi Front: Beaucedine Glacier [S]
The Gustaberg Front: Bastok Markets [S]
The Gustaberg Front: Grauberg [S]
The Gustaberg Front: North Gustaberg [S]
The Norvallen Front: Batallia Downs [S]
The Norvallen Front: La Vaule [S]
The Norvallen Front: Eldieme Necropolis [S]
The Norvallen Front: Jugner Forest [S]
The Norvallen Front: Vunkerl Inlet [S]
The Ronfaure Front: East Ronfaure [S]
The Ronfaure Front: South Sandoria [S]
The Sarutabaruta Front: Fort Karugo-Narugo [S]
The Sarutabaruta Front: West Sarutabaruta [S]
The Sarutabaruta Front: Windurst Waters [S]
The Valdeaunia Front: Xarcabard [S]
The Valdeaunia Front:Castle Zvahl Baileys [S]
The Valdeaunia Front:Castle Zvahl Keep [S]
West Aht Urhgan: Bhaflau Thickets
West Aht Urhgan: The Colosseum

Classes/races.  What's been added that's missing?  What's named incorrectly?

"Beast Lord" should read"Beastmaster". It seems this was fixed in "Second Job" but not the"Job" and "Third Job" lists (all 3 drop downs should be the same list).

New jobs (classes) that were added in the last 2expansion packs:

Blue Mage
Corsair
Puppetmaster
(The above 3 are in some places but not all 3 drop down lists, and Puppetmaster is listed 3 times in a row on one list)
Scholar
Dancer

No new races.

Roster stuff.  What should be displayed that isn't?  What's displayed that doesn't really matter to anybody and should be removed to make room for more important data?

On the Roster and Tradeskills I would say to remove the "GP user" from the standard view. FFXI allows a single character to change classes(jobs) so most people do not have multiple characters. Having the GP username and then the character name seems redundant in most entries. However, would still like to see the GP username when clicking the character name.

Content types.  Are there any types of content that you consistently feel the need for, that is specific to your game, that you would like to see added?

Search box - Would like to see the search box make a return (like the old one that used to go to Alla). If possible it could link to the search on FFXIclopedia.org(an official community site). They have tons of game info and they go to great lengths to make sure that there are no RMT adds on the site. They are also part of Wikia.

Incorporate community portal data into GP roster (Wish list) - Unfortunately FFXI doesn't have a Armory site like WoW does. But they do have a beta site that is something like it. http://fanzone.playonline.com/lscom/index.do. It's very clumbsy to use. You can't search for individuals, but you can look up a Linkshell (guild) then it will show who is in it and their character info, but only if they opted to have it shown.. However once you do all that the data it shows is amazing. I wish there was some way to incorporate this data in to the GP roster to make it sort of real time. You can go here (long URL) to see my character info to get an idea what I am talking about, has all kinds of data on me and updates in semi-real time (note you will have to select timezone first to see it (one of the many annoyances of the beta site).

Thanks,
Soucont

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Sandy Lewis (Blue Collar) 7/29/2008 1:51 PM EST : RE: What's missing for your game [FFXI]?
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Sandy Lewis
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Thank you very much for taking the time to type all that up. 

I updated the locations, and class/races.  Most everything else needs a code change, something I cannot do, but something Aaron will be looking in the near future to see if it something we can add to GuildPortal.


One question, where is Puppermaster listed 3 times?
Sandy Lewis, GuildPortal Support
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Soucont (New Admin) 7/30/2008 4:20 AM EST : RE: What's missing for your game [FFXI]?

Soucont
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Thanks Sandy!

Puppetmaster is listed 3 times in a row on second job under the character settings.


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Soucont (New Admin) 7/30/2008 6:32 AM EST : RE: What's missing for your game [FFXI]?

Soucont
Posts: 4559
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These jobs also need to be added to the new Recruitment content type.

Blue Mage
Corsair
Puppetmaster
Scholar
Dancer

Thanks again,
Soucont
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Aaron Lewis (Blue Collar) 8/7/2008 3:46 AM EST : RE: What's missing for your game [FFXI]?
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Aaron Lewis
Posts: 1979
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Thanks Soucont!  Fixed that up. 

Edit: Also added those classes to the recruiting data.  Thanks for supplying them!
Aaron Lewis, GuildPortal.com
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Aaron Lewis (Blue Collar) 8/7/2008 4:24 AM EST : RE: What's missing for your game [FFXI]?
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Aaron Lewis
Posts: 1979
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Soucont --

About the wikia search, I've left a phone message with them to find out if they'd mind something like that.  Will see how that develops!

As for incorporating the Playonline data, I took a look at it and, unless they could be convinced to make the data available over HTTP in a structured format (like XML), we probably couldn't do it.  The way it is now, the data is contained in regular HTML mark-up with no identifying attributes.  Typically, to get at data like that, you use what people call "screen scraping," in this case parsing the HTML and saying something like, "give me the text inside the page's fourth table, second row through last, third cell," for something like the Job, for example.  The problem with doing that is that any time they change the display of their pages even a little bit, it breaks our integration.

You might have luck convincing them to make the data available as XML by talking to their web development team (if you have access to them via their forums or something).  We promise, we'll do caching on our side to avoid hammering their servers. 

Aaron Lewis, GuildPortal.com
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Soucont (New Admin) 8/8/2008 7:00 AM EST : RE: What's missing for your game [FFXI]?

Soucont
Posts: 4559
Zomgawsh Poster

Thanks again.

I submitted a request to playonline for the .xml thing. Hopefully they will put something in.

Souc
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AbbydonKrafts (New Admin) 2/7/2010 1:42 PM EST : RE: What's missing for your game [FFXI]?
AbbydonKrafts
Posts: 67
Posts With Wolves

Aaron Lewis said:
As for incorporating the Playonline data, I took a look at it and, unless they could be convinced to make the data available over HTTP in a structured format (like XML), we probably couldn't do it.


I don't know how the FFXI Auction House is doing it, but they pull thousands of character data on a regular basis from the POL LS Community. Here's mine: http://www.ffxiah.com/player.php?id=1397658. Notice that there is a "LS Community Profile" link. That's what it asked for in order to continuously update my profile.

Bad Server Name

The "Hades" server under Characters is tripled:



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AbbydonKrafts (New Admin) 2/13/2010 1:14 PM EST : RE: What's missing for your game [FFXI]?
AbbydonKrafts
Posts: 67
Posts With Wolves

I noticed that there are missing traits, abilities, etc, for all the various jobs when I go into Character Settings - Skills. It appears as though all Merits are missing, too.

Here are some that are missing from White Mage:
  • Abilities
    • Afflatus Misery
    • Afflatus Solace
    • Devotion (Merit)
    • Martyr (Merit)
  • Traits
    • Magic Defense Bonus IV
  • Merits
    • Divine Seal Recast
    • Cure Cast Time
    • Bar Spell Effect
    • Banish Effect
    • Regen Spell Effect
The full lists can be found under each job here: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Category:Jobs

Also, the names for many of the skills do not match those of the Final Fantasy skills. Please relabel them to match the FFXI names so that members do not get confused. Some of them speak English as a second language, so the words must be exact.

An example of really mismatched wording are these for Black Mage:
  • FFXI: Manafont
    • GP: Magic Pool
  • FFXI: Elemental Seal
    • GP: Sign of Spirit
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