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Sandy Lewis (Blue Collar) 4/13/2011 6:00 PM EST : Raid Points (DKP): What is right & what is wrong with...
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Sandy Lewis
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We are looking at re-do some parts of our built-in Raid Point/DKP system and want some input!   What did we do right, (and need not to change), and what would you like to see changed?    

Also when you reply please say what game you play, as some games have different systems.


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Shirrah (New Admin) 4/14/2011 12:05 PM EST : RE: Raid Points (DKP): What is right & what is wrong ...
Shirrah
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Game: Everquest II:

Overall, the dkp system is a good one but a couple of things I would like to see changed are:

The ability for an admin to designate the raid toon(s) that a member can sign up. I other words, we don't accept alt signup on our main page, so we would like to restrict it to the main raiding char and only that one can be signed up on the event page. Perhaps event by event with an option to set as default for certain types of raids.

Something I've been trying to fix but have had no luck with so far is the ability to remove some of the test dates I had set up when I was testing the calendar. They have been included in member raid attendance, rendering that function useless. I would like to see a way to delete them. I know there are boxes with check marks but they're all grayed out.

Recent drops: I am new to this and probably overlooked something but I don't see a way to make the drop an actual clickable link to an item description.

Those are the things that spring immediately to mind. I'll add if I think of more.
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legotho (New Admin) 4/18/2011 11:13 AM EST : RE: Raid Points (DKP): What is right & what is wrong ...
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I'm only just getting to grips with the raid points system. We've managed ours by hand for years, with the aid of scraps of paper.

The two things our point allocation requires which Guild Portal doesn't supply are:
  • Points per toon, not just per player
  • Multiple categories for points, so that we can more than one raid, each with its own points allocation.
What would be nice (but is less important) would be able to record that the cost of an item was a fraction of the persons total points, so we could put in 25%, and have the system calculate this (in practice, for minor drops, we use "25%, or at least 10 points", but a full specification for that might be over complicated, and we can manage the "or at least" manually).
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Keilana55 (Guild Admin) 4/29/2011 12:46 PM EST : RE: Raid Points (DKP): What is right & what is wrong ...
Keilana55
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We gave a member -3 points in the points box, checked the "attended" box which autosaved, but they were attributed 0 points rather than negative.  We tried to do the same thing for another member without checking the "attended" box but hit the "save and exit" button at the bottom of the window, but the result was still the same.  Do we have to enter negative points manually from now on?  If so, that is okay, but if not, please advise.  Thanks!

Game: Rift

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Valdaglerion (Guild Admin) 5/3/2011 3:56 PM EST : RE: Raid Points (DKP): What is right & what is wrong ...
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Please Alter the "Confirm All" Behavior

Our Lord of the Rings Online guild raids regularly and like to confirm those folks who are going.  The way the admin's "Confirm All" link currently works makes it unusable most of the time, forcing us to confirm folks one at a time, which is laborious AND defeats the purpose of the link.

Currently, "confirm all" confirms everyone listed as available, including those marked as wait list.  So, if we have 15 signed up as available for a 12-person raid (3 extra), we normally put the extras on the wait list.  If I do that, then hit "confirm all". those "wait list" members are now marked as "confirmed"!  If I DON'T put them on the wait list, all 15 who signed up as "available" will now be marked as "confirmed"!

So, add anyone marked as "wait list" to the other groups (tentative and cancelled) that will not be marked as "confirmed" when I hit "confirm all".  That way, I can set our extras as "wait list", then hit "confirm all" to confirm everyone else.

Thanks!
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Keilana55 (Guild Admin) 5/30/2011 4:21 PM EST : RE: Raid Points (DKP): What is right & what is wrong ...
Keilana55
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It's been about a month and a half.  I was wondering if there is any word on a fix for this?

Game: Rift

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Valdaglerion (Guild Admin) 5/30/2011 11:22 PM EST : RE: Raid Points (DKP): What is right & what is wrong ...
Valdaglerion
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Also, the signup list should show the class and level of the character being signed up with.  I am currently using a script of Mottie's to do this but it really should be built in to Guildportal.
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Keilana55 (Guild Admin) 6/1/2011 12:51 PM EST : RE: Raid Points (DKP): What is right & what is wrong ...
Keilana55
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Valdaglerion said:
Also, the signup list should show the class and level of the character being signed up with.  I am currently using a script of Mottie's to do this but it really should be built in to Guildportal.


Since some games allow you to play more than one role, it would be magnificant if we could sign-up a "primary role" and an "alternate" role (or make it an optional setting in the control panel).  Please, please, pretty please!

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Keilana55 (Guild Admin) 6/2/2011 2:55 PM EST : RE: Raid Points (DKP): What is right & what is wrong ...
Keilana55
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Thanks for the updates that went out yesterday.  Any word on some of the things posted here that were not able to be included?

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Aaron Lewis (Blue Collar) 6/2/2011 3:21 PM EST : RE: Raid Points (DKP): What is right & what is wrong ...
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Aaron Lewis
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The ideas in this thread will be used to build an overall DKP management system that'll have its own area in the Control Panel. It'll most likely be released in stages.

I don't see any problem with it including what's been discussed so far... Except the sign-ups thing including character fields. That's outside DKP altogether. Not saying it won't happen (although the sign-ups table is pretty cluttered as it is), but it's not what this thread's about.
Aaron Lewis, GuildPortal.com
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