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NyconWoW (New Admin) 8/27/2008 3:27 PM EST : Help here please.

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http://www.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=275878&TabID=2315509

This is my web site so far. What i would like to add is.

1)Music
2) A progression screen on main page
3) A Face cover for my web page.

I will be paying to have all adds removed soon so let me know if you guys can help. Thank you.


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Kaysi (Guild Admin) 8/27/2008 7:55 PM EST : RE: Help here please.

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Omegadome (New Admin) 8/29/2008 12:55 PM EST : RE: Help here please.
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I would like to add that music on websites delay your download times.  Often times music can be 1mb+.   If you're positive that everyone in your guild is rolling with DSL or better then you're fine.   But always keep it in mind.  If anything,  apply your music with it turned off and have an option to turn it on.

What you'll find more often then not however is that music will grind your senses and ruin the experience of the website.  I personally do not recommend including music. 

The face cover that you refered to is called a "splash page".   Again,  like the music,  this simply diverts the user from accessing what matters most and creates to many frills.   You should always only be 2 clicks away from any of the main content on a website.  Anything beyond that is to much.   Splash pages delay the user and their time in accessing anything important on your website.   You can create a very clean and interactive website without including a bunch of useless graphics. 

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Mottie (MVP) 8/29/2008 1:22 PM EST : RE: Help here please.
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I disagree with you about the welcome page Omegadome,

It's a nice introduction to your guild and guild website when a new person decides to come visit. It's like having a greeter at the door.

Established members only need to bookmark your home page and basically bypass the welcome page.

I do agree with you about the music, it's nicer in my opinion to have the music defaulted to off. It both minimizes load time for members with slower connections and prevents some members from being blasted with music when they are already listening to their own.
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Terratonic (Guild Admin) 8/29/2008 5:34 PM EST : RE: Help here please.
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The problem with welcome screens is that they are often done wrong.

Often times you are forced to sit through some kind of flash or some such before you're allowed to click into the main site.  It'd kind of be like trying to go to the store and as soon as you walk into the front doors, another set in front of you shut and you have to listen to a tv ad going on and on about all of the in store specials.

As long as there is a obvious way to get around the welcome screen, then I don't have too much problem with them.  Ones that make you sit and wait however.. make me want to drop puppies from a tall building..

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Omegadome (New Admin) 8/29/2008 7:17 PM EST : RE: Help here please.
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I dont know,  perhaps its my professional experience working as a graphics designer that I've learned that keeping customers away from the important aspects of your "product" only slows down business and convenience.  You can disagree with me all you want.  I've personally always found splash pages / greeting pages to be redundant and pointless unless you're using it as a means to offer resolution options,  in which case,  there is a purpose.  Even still,   unless you have nothing better to do with your life than resize all your content with your website,  you might as well just stick to a safe resolution.

If you truly wanted to give a nice presentation then you would create a introduction as a secondary option,  not as a forced pill. You could include a startup flash vid on your website that shows "product" looking however spiffy you want it to be. 

 If you were accurate,  then all known major video game websites,  graphic designers,  businesses,  ect. ect.  would have splash pages.  But they dont for a good logical reason.  

The only means that I feel justify having a splashpage (which can be done in other ways) is for a re-direct url.  But in that case I would just have the main url index immediatly re-direct without having to create an un-necessary page that only results in you having to waste another "click" of your life.  

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NyconWoW (New Admin) 8/29/2008 8:13 PM EST : RE: Help here please.

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One other question. How do you include the Vent page on the site. That shows who is on vent?
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Kaysi (Guild Admin) 8/30/2008 1:36 AM EST : RE: Help here please.

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Check out this forum 

For my site I ended up going here to get out vent box: http://www.instantventrilo.com/
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Mottie (MVP) 8/30/2008 3:12 AM EST : RE: Help here please.
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Omegadome said:
I dont know,  perhaps its my professional experience working as a graphics designer that I've learned that keeping customers away from the important aspects of your "product" only slows down business and convenience.  You can disagree with me all you want.  I've personally always found splash pages / greeting pages to be redundant and pointless unless you're using it as a means to offer resolution options,  in which case,  there is a purpose.  Even still,   unless you have nothing better to do with your life than resize all your content with your website,  you might as well just stick to a safe resolution.

If you truly wanted to give a nice presentation then you would create a introduction as a secondary option,  not as a forced pill. You could include a startup flash vid on your website that shows "product" looking however spiffy you want it to be. 

 If you were accurate,  then all known major video game websites,  graphic designers,  businesses,  ect. ect.  would have splash pages.  But they dont for a good logical reason.  

The only means that I feel justify having a splashpage (which can be done in other ways) is for a re-direct url.  But in that case I would just have the main url index immediatly re-direct without having to create an un-necessary page that only results in you having to waste another "click" of your life.  



Whoa, no need to get touchy... I made a splash page for websites because I was asked to, so bottom line to me is the customer is always right.
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LochenTwo (Guild Admin) 8/30/2008 3:45 AM EST : RE: Help here please.
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I'm in the design biz as well. I'd agree about forced splash pages, however, as stated, these are not forced and these are hobby sites. Not really customer based ventures.

I think Blizzards current use of splash pages has made them more popular. It's a good idea to think of HOW they are using them. Not merely as a welcome screen but also to drive a something home. To that end, I've been thinking of adding one that promotes either a particular section of the website or an event. Probably something I could easily change every other week. I"m thinking they may be an underdeveloped tool to help get people interested in more than just our raid calendar. One can only hope

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